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I didn't have as strong a reaction to this week's ep as the previous weeks, and others have already made some of my observations for me. But let's go ahead with the list!

1) I love that Dean is still wearing the Dead Guy Robe. I spent Sun. night and Monday with bertee and dugindeep, basically watching old episodes non-stop, and one of the ones we watched was last season when the boys discover the bunker. So it was cool to see that bit of continuity of Dean still loving his robe.

2) I'm not a Cas!girl, but I liked most of his scenes. I like that he realized being human wasn't just about the material struggle for survival (though he certainly learned about that), but also the spiritual struggle.

3) I don't like how Dean, despite his concerns about "whiplash," is already way too comfortable with calling on Zeke for help. He got used to having an angelus-ex-machina in his pocket back when Cas was fully on their side and fully powered up, and I'm afraid that he's not going to be too eager to send Zeke on his way now that he's already saved their asses twice.

4) For his part, Zeke is obviously up to no good. This is the part that others before me have said, but if he can bring someone back to life, even if it wears him out, he must be powerful enough to heal Sam. Granted, Cas did say last season that the Trials were changing Sam at a level that even he couldn't fix, but if that's the case, then how can Zeke hope to fix him at all?

I still like the theory that I read over the summer that the Trials changed Sam by putting something like angel grace inside of him, and that while his body could handle it, when the angels fell, that grace was damaged, and that's why he was so hurt (the internal burns bear that out). Zeke may have sensed that and wanted to take it for himself.

5) As far as the last scene goes...I hope Kevin wasn't around to see Dean throwing "family" out into the street. Obviously, when it's ____ or Sam, Dean's going to choose Sam. Hell, when it was what Sam wants or Sam, Dean chose Sam. It just reminds me of the list of signs that your partner is abusive: early on, isolate them from other friends and family. Check.

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counteragent
Oct. 23rd, 2013 01:46 pm (UTC)
I hope Kevin WAS around so he and Crowley can get with the deal making and teaming up. Yesssssss. :D

Cool theory aobut the angel grace in Sam. My summergen (and, in truth, a lot of people's) was about Sam turning into an angel so although I didn't hear that theory over the summer, it fits with a lot of what they laid out last season.

We are having a debate about Zeke being powerful enough to fix Sam at my poll post, but we haven't really gotten anywhere. They need to re-explain that Sam's damage is at a subatomic level or whatever the F again to us so Dean doesn't seem so lobotomized.
zubeneschamali
Oct. 24th, 2013 02:09 am (UTC)
Eh, that works, too. :D

I mean, if Castiel was right and there were things wrong with Sam that he couldn't heal, either a) random angel soldier is more powerful than Cas or b) Ezekiel is lying his ass off about being able to heal Sam. I know which one I think is right.
counteragent
Oct. 24th, 2013 02:50 am (UTC)
Or he could only be healed from the inside?

...Then again, why am I trying to figure this out? :)
cassiopeia7
Oct. 23rd, 2013 01:49 pm (UTC)
I don't like how Dean, despite his concerns about "whiplash," is already way too comfortable with calling on Zeke for help.

THIS, RIGHT HERE. Dean has already grown entirely too dependent upon Zeke's powers. Maybe he just figures he's using an available resource, but this will go nowhere good.

I still like the theory that I read over the summer that the Trials changed Sam by putting something like angel grace inside of him, and that while his body could handle it, when the angels fell, that grace was damaged, and that's why he was so hurt (the internal burns bear that out). Zeke may have sensed that and wanted to take it for himself.

I had not seen this theory, but boy, do I like it. Sam seemed to be on the road to recovery, then the angels fell and all hell broke loose. The timing alone is perfect. I really, REALLY like this theory.
zubeneschamali
Oct. 24th, 2013 02:12 am (UTC)
Maybe he just figures he's using an available resource, but this will go nowhere good.

Not least because he's going to run out of ways to explain to Sam how he knows things he shouldn't know.

he timing alone is perfect.

Exactly. I ficced that Sam was acquiring angel grace, but someone else pointed out to me the timing of when he doubled over, and that makes so much sense. I'm still not clear on the extent to which the angels were actually hurt or lost their grace as they fell, but consistency is not exactly the writers' strong suit at this point. :(
katsheswims
Oct. 23rd, 2013 02:59 pm (UTC)
"It just reminds me of the list of signs that your partner is abusive: early on, isolate them from other friends and family. Check." That is exactly what I thought of in that scene with Zeke and Dean. I am pretty convinced that he is a bad guy now (not that I didn't have some doubts before.)
zubeneschamali
Oct. 24th, 2013 02:14 am (UTC)
I think he's a bad guy to the extent that he's taking advantage of the situation: not that he's got nefarious plans like Bartholomew, or even necessarily that he was lying to Dean when he said he'd leave when Sam was healed. But I think that the longer he's in Sam, the more he's going to like it there, and he's not going to leave without a fight.
ash48
Oct. 23rd, 2013 03:14 pm (UTC)
It just reminds me of the list of signs that your partner is abusive: early on, isolate them from other friends and family. Check.

Ack! crap...

I hope Kevin wasn't around to see Dean throwing "family" out into the street.

Oh man, just what I was thinking. Talking about whiplash...
zubeneschamali
Oct. 24th, 2013 02:15 am (UTC)
And the fact that Dean didn't question it at all, didn't say to Zeke, "But we're managing to keep Kevin out of sight of the angels," just made it worse.
thursdaysisters
Oct. 23rd, 2013 06:04 pm (UTC)
I'm just hoping for more angels who aren't complete dicks (Bartholomew all but twirled his mustache, at least Zachariah and Naomi had some charm)
zubeneschamali
Oct. 24th, 2013 02:15 am (UTC)
Right? I feel like Ezekiel is more of an opportunist than a bad guy at this point, but as time goes on, I don't think he's going to let go of Sam.
counteragent
Oct. 24th, 2013 02:52 am (UTC)
I hope he's got some other strong agenda (as well), because that is essentially exactly a retread of Soulless Sam--he wasn't EVIL per se, and he was initially cooperative.
kalliel
Oct. 24th, 2013 11:48 pm (UTC)
ALL THIS EZEKIEL BUSINESS HAS MY HEART ALL AFLUTTER. WITH GLEE AND ANXIETY BOTH. Like, it's now been days since the episode aired, and with every reaction I read, I'm just taken right back into that ball of feeeelings. It's going to be an intense ride, that's for sure.
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